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I'm actually a bit tired and blah and feeling out of it today, so I'm going to try something different: just posting the spot for discussion, then throwing out a few things here and there in comments later as I feel like it/think about it. I'm curious to see how a totally open field for discussion might work anyhow, rather than me putting my own spin on it from the start.

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stormfeather
Apr. 5th, 2010 07:01 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I think I have to agree with Fortuna, in that she can't be all that weak like Schmendrick says, if she can actually bespell an immortal unicorn to believe she's old and feeble and dying.

And yeah, it's pretty sad that the unicorn has to have an illusion put on her to let people actually see her for what she truly is. Then again, that also implies that it's a bit more than "what people expect to see," since if that were the case, they should be able to see that she's actually a unicorn without the help, if that's what they're truly expecting anyhow.
stormfeather
Apr. 5th, 2010 07:12 pm (UTC)
Okay, one of the things I wanted to bring up: I like mishmash fantasy of this sort, which takes things willy-nilly from various backgrounds and makes them work together.

In this case, a Generic Fantasy Mold, but with bits in the first chapter of a rope which bound the Fenris-wolf (which is... Norse yes?), and quick mentions of Pliny and the Chinese by the Educated Hunters, and then in this chapter we have a harpy, Cerberus, Arachne, a manticore and satyr (Greek/Roman), next to Elli and the Midgard Serpent (more Norse), and a unicorn and dragon (ubiquitous), and then we have... Schmendrick.

Along the same lines, I also didn't realize that any of the harpies had names and thought they were just a generic mob, and always just kinda assumed Beagle pulled a specific name and history out of his posterior. But no, wiki Pete says that the harpy Celaeno was actually a mythological creature. Go figure.

Also, I'm assuming that as a traveling carnival thingy, Mommy Fortuna doesn't rely on repeat business, because sheesh! Way to frighten off the customers!
khedron
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:28 am (UTC)
and then we have... Schmendrick.

Err, what do you mean by that? I ask because I never thought to look him up before, and I had no context for his name.

dictionary.com #1
"stupid person," 1944, from Yiddish shmendrik, from the name of a character in an operetta by Avrom Goldfaden (1840-1908), Father of Yiddish Theater.
dictionary.com #2
a stupid and ineffectual nobody. (Yiddish.): Some schmendrick from downstairs asked if you could turn down your stereo.
encyclo.co.uk
A `schmendrick` or `shmendrik` is a Yiddish word meaning a fool, a jerk, a ne'er-do-well, almost an idiot, a clueless person, someone who's dumb, stupid or not worthy of respect. Example: `Eric was somewhat of a schmendrick in the way he responded to people.`
stormfeather
Apr. 11th, 2010 05:41 am (UTC)
Well, I actually hadn't looked it up, but I just meant that it sounded Yiddish, and completely different from "the usual" for fantasy.
khedron
Apr. 12th, 2010 01:23 am (UTC)
Gotcha. When I was 10 or whatever reading this, I didn't know from Yiddish (so to speak), so that was completely lost on me. It was just a name. (On the other hand, I was into the Norse & Greek stuff, so Elli and other things I got.)
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stormfeather
Apr. 6th, 2010 01:22 am (UTC)
1) No, but only because I've been familiar with The Last Unicorn for so long. I do vaguely remember though when the drink first came out, thinking "what, so it chases after unicorns" or something similar. :p

2) True, and true. :/ I have the sneaking suspicion that Beagle may be somewhat cynical!

Also, damnit, I can't believe I forgot to order the next Dresden until just now, so it probably won't get here for another extra day or so.
khedron
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:20 am (UTC)
1) Somebody tell me that I'm not the only one who, when reading about the Red Bull, thinks, "Gives you wings!"

I did it backwards -- reading the book, I thought, wow, why did the drink never remind me of the Last Unicorn?
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