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Parasha: The Hobbit, September 7th reading

Hrmph. It would have been nicer of Gandalf the all-knowing to at least rouse Bilbo a little earlier than he did, so at least he had time to grab a few things for the trip!

Not to mention the dwarves, eating him out of house and home and just leaving the washing-up and all for him to do... though come to think of it, one wonders how Bilbo could even sleep through a dozen+ dwarves waking up, getting ready for a journey, cooking, eating, etc.

And man, I could definitely do with second breakfast, some mornings. Then again I eat breakfast late enough usually to qualify as early lunch, so maybe my dinner is second breakfast. :p

Hum, Gandalf seem to have a thing for white horses!

Sheesh, compare this book to things like, say, The Wheel of Time. In the course of less than a page, they've started their journey, traveled for unknown days, and already left their familiar lands behind and are passing through mysterious places. And about the only clothes described are the different-colored cloaks and hoods.

I find it hard to picture Gandalf eating most, with dwarves and a hobbit as his companions! I guess magic takes a lot out of a guy.

"And if all is perfectly safe and canny"... wow, you don't often see the use of canny, in the sense of not-uncanny! Then again, I wonder how much "uncanny" would still be in use if it weren't for the X-Men. :p

Are... those... cockney trolls? o_O I really don't remember those!

Well, I guess Bilbo did better in his first encounter than he might have, given his stealth and trying to help save things in the end, but yeah, he should have gone back in the first place, or at least warned the dwarves once he saw them starting to get picked off one by one! But then it's easy to say that here, from the comfort of our houses. :p

At least it looks like they rolled pretty well on the loot tables, when it was time to plunder the trolls' cave! Er... yeah, I think I may have read too much DM of the Rings. (Actually it just popped into my head before I thought of that comic, but that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it, damnit.)

As an aside, since we see the first mention of Elrond, I remember when I was little I got him mixed up with L. Ron Hubbard, due to the name, and the Dianetics book being shilled all the time on TV when I was a kidlet. Probably around the same time I was first being introduced to The Hobbit thanks to the animated films...

Also: I want a pony! They gave Bilbo a pony. I want a pony too!

A very... interesting....song.

And we first see the very first thing starting off the whole "elves and dwarves don't get along"... because Tolkien said so! I was going to say "the whole trolls hate dwarves a lot thing didn't stick around though," but it did, in Discworld at least!

It's awfully lucky that Elrond happened to look at the map at just the right time, with just the right sort of moon behind it, eh?

Remember, Monday we cover chapters 4 and 5!


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Sep. 7th, 2012 04:42 pm (UTC)
I know, right? I went into this (not having read it in ages) expecting a prequel to Lord of the Rings, and instead and am being blindsided by elves Nancing Up the Pike, and trolls being all cockney, hobbits inventing gold, and Gandalf being... not our Gandalf! WTF?

Now I have to wonder how Peter Jackson is handling it for the movie... if he's sticking closer to the vibe of the book, or tweaking it to fit in with the others.
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Sep. 7th, 2012 05:13 pm (UTC)
Oh, the Necromancer = Sauron? Somehow, I didn't put those together!

And yeah, good point with the tweaking/trilogy thing. Although I guess some of the things will take longer on the screen than they do in print. But yeah, I'm suspecting he might be padding out things as well, such as the stop at Rivendell maybe? (Moar elves moar elves!)
Sep. 9th, 2012 04:59 am (UTC)
Oh, the Necromancer = Sauron? Somehow, I didn't put those together!

You weren't supposed to, not in this book. And beyond that, I have a completely unsubstantiated recollection that the Necromancer wasn't always meant to be Sauron, but that was retconned in LotR.

... Apparently, I was only partially right. Read here, not too much spoilage in this section. (Are we even worried about that?)
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Sep. 7th, 2012 11:48 pm (UTC)
Where is my +1 button, damnit?
Sep. 9th, 2012 05:08 am (UTC)
I *want* to give Jackson the benefit of the doubt... but we only narrowly avoided having Arwen fighting at Helm's Deep. So... cautious optimism.

(Whoa, that came out sounding Hanar in my head. Freaky.)
Sep. 10th, 2012 05:26 pm (UTC)
Hanar, or Elcor? (I'm assuming you mean the "cautious optimism" bit... ;) )
Sep. 10th, 2012 06:26 pm (UTC)
D'oh! Yes indeed. *flustered thanks*

(It was still freaky!)
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Sep. 7th, 2012 11:49 pm (UTC)
Only the Disney version. Then again, I think I'd prefer whatever Disney would come up with for the elves, to what we got...
Sep. 9th, 2012 05:02 am (UTC)
"High" Elves, indeed!
Sep. 9th, 2012 05:42 am (UTC)
"Elvish singing is not a thing to be missed!"

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Sep. 10th, 2012 03:02 pm (UTC)
"The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there."
Sep. 10th, 2012 05:27 pm (UTC)
Because the internet hates us.
Sep. 8th, 2012 02:50 am (UTC)
It's a West Country dialect, not Cockney. I doubt you'll ever find a Cockney what uses "yer." (The trolls are also rhotic, unless one believes that Tolkien drops h and g but keeps r: Cockneys are not rhotic.)

Tolkien later told a correspondent that he regretted some things about the Trolls in the Hobbit-naming one William, and having him say "poor little blighter."

Edited at 2012-09-08 02:53 am (UTC)
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