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So I have a) a verrah fast mouse now, since mine was dying and I just replaced it with one that seems to be much more sensitive, and b) no water, since the plumbers are in the process of locating and repairing (with help of a backhoe) the outside leak that we've been hearing for the past week+.

I shall try, however, to concentrate on bookness!


Honestly, after the last scene with the Abbot I find I'm not sure I WANT to read on. That just still turns my stomach. Ugh. But I suppose I must soldier on.

Gee, am I getting the slight impression on the first page of the chapter that the nomad tribes survive on hunting alone? Possibly? (Also, no wonder they're so cranky and ready to war people, they must be awfully constipated.)

And gee, everyone in the little plot is planning on turning everyone else eventually, probably. What a shock. I never would have guessed.

And gee, think we could get any more "grunt grunt machismo" for the tribes?

Soooo... from the hermit's words anyhow, he a) is of course the same hermit that Francis saw, and b) is related to Leibowitz distantly. Of course, how much truth there is in all that remains to be seen...

"The Venerable Francis Gerard"... so we at least hear a little more about the poor guy. And at least he's well-remembered.

I'll admit, the exchange about the writing, and the tents mended, and everything, has me totally lost.

Ah, "a new Renaissance"? How the hell do they remember the old one, if they don't remember really anything concrete about the previous civilization? o_O And for the record, "renaissance" itself translates to "rebirth," which I suppose is the reason for the references to birth-pain. And would that make this a re-re-naissance?

"The Book I gave you..." Hum... wonder what this is referencing? The Bible perhaps, or a book of it, if maybe he's not meant to be the Wandering Jew, but one of the Disciples or something? Although I've seen no other reason to believe that, or to believe that they would still be wandering the world.

Argh, I really just don't know enough of theology to "get" these chapters very well. -_-

One thing though, this Abbot at least seems more... human, and likable, than the one in the first part!

Aww, speaking of likable... I liked Apollo too. I'm sad to hear he's been arrested and all. Or to read it. Whatever.

And yet again we get a parallel between the wooden Saint, and the wanderer. And it turns out to be a pretty good place for a break, by accident.

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stormfeather
Sep. 14th, 2011 09:56 pm (UTC)
Oh good, I thought maybe it was just because I was a HEATHEN through and through. But it sounds like I'm not alone in the missing stuff.

And I'm pretty sure Paulo and Benjamin *weren't* having the same conversation, but... I'm just not sure about what either conversation was, totally.
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stormfeather
Sep. 15th, 2011 03:28 am (UTC)
Or science-non-!, or natural science as they call it, as opposed I guess to unnatural science which would be more of the devil. Or something. I guess?
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stormfeather
Sep. 15th, 2011 03:56 am (UTC)
Re: I HAVE THINKY THOUGHTS
1) Yeah, I definitely have caught a big sense of "while science may be good, science in the hands of people not morally ready for it/morally responsible is generally bad," from both the Flame Deluge type stuff, and most of the happenings of the book. I would even go so far as to call it one of the book's themes, thus far, although I wouldn't want to state that for the whole book, for sure. :p

2) Doh! Now that you mention it... yeah, yeah, that's.... yeah. (And even I know the story of Lazarus, yeesh.)

4) I think I remember them mentioning grazing land for their herds, although they could always just be referring to grazing lands for the herds that they hunt. I can't give a cite for it though, even this soon after reading. Eesh. Brain like a sieve.

5 and 6, hrm, yeah, makes sense. Although the Benjamin-as-individual blending with Benjamin-as-Judaism gets a bit confusing.
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stormfeather
Sep. 15th, 2011 06:30 pm (UTC)
Re: I HAVE THINKY THOUGHTS
You apparently did it anonymously by mistake, and I must have screening on for those? Although I really didn't think I did. I'll have to check my settings again. I unscreened it, at any rate, although it's a bit late perhaps. (I didn't notice it until you posted this, since I was going to reply.)

ANYHOW, as I was going to say, while I agree we don't know whether he is supposed to be Lazarus or just believe himself to be so (I'm learning toward the former, I guess, since there's at least something very definitely hinky going on with him, Francis, etc.), as far as the Lazarus=immortal thing, I don't think it's stated in the scriptures or anything (not that I'd be the one to ask), but on the fantasy front I don't see it being that much of a leap. Just figure, When Jesus Raises someone, they stay Risen, damnit.
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