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Also, I seem to have munged the tags on these a bit. Any preferences which tag for this book specifically I should use? I'll probably change them all in a bit.


Seven years? Man, poor Francis. You'd think the Abbot would just give up and let the miracle be spread out, already. Yeesh.

Hrm, if "Inquisitor" brings up thoughts of a torturer, and most knowledge and such of the present day was lost... does that mean the Inquisition has made a come-back, in its more historical sense? Ouch. Although probably to be expected, in such a harsh world...

And seven years later he still remembers the term "execrable vanity"? Yeesh.

Also, I know now who Francis is reminding me of, a bit, which has been bugging me. Brutha, from Small Gods. And in fact a lot of it is reminiscent. (The Abbey off the desert, the downtrodden novice who is honest to a fault and may or may not be stupid, but he's thought to be...) I know some doing this read-along haven't read that, so it won't mean much, but I'm curious what others might think. Am I totally off the mark?

I am just absolutely amused by the thought of the illuminated math texts for some reason. :)

The thought of Brother Sarl and his method for restoring old book pages also reminds me of Discworld, this time of L-Space, and also of the Sandman series and the library of dreams.

And oh dear... the copying of the blueprints. I just... I mean... okay, that's dedication. "spreading blue ink around tiny white letters"? Wow. (And I find it hard to imagine him being able to sketch the blueprints at all accurately - which he might not have - and painstakingly spread the blue ink like that, when he's not even done learning to illuminate. You can kinda figure that the Brother in charge of this doesn't really see it as an important task.)

Another reason I'd never be called to the priesthood/monastery (again, gender aside)... I doubt I'd be able to refrain from stabbing Jeris with a quill.

I notice that Francis can be devious enough when it suits his own needs - hiding the blueprint in amongst other blueprints, and carefully not mentioning what he learns about blueprints to Brother Horner - although he's not telling a straight-out falsehood at least. (Plus I guess maybe he's changed a bit in seven years? Or longer, even.)

So now I have to wonder just what a quiggle, doohicky, etc., is in the terms of the book. I thought maybe they were technical terms that have leaked out into the regular world, like "sport" perhaps, but if so I can't find any reference in searches for definitons. Hrm.

So the visage of the Beatus looks familiar to Francis, eh? *dundunDUN*

"Six young novices instructed to be responsive to his every whim"... again, I can't help but think that would hvae a totally different slant, written today.

"The other side has a witness," yeah, looks like there's some definite political infighting in the Church. Yeesh. The more things change... Nice to see that with society lost, the one thing quickly brought back to order is the bureaucracy and politicking. -_-

"Rumored dragons"... hmmm, pure fantasy, or mutations?

Horns and fangs? The... devil's advocate? *grooaaan* And what's with the horns disappearing and the fangs vanishing? Is it all just supposed to be Francis' imagination? Mutation, which suddenly looks less ominious to Francis? Prosthetics and their removal? Urgh...

Anyhow, looks like we finally get to see New Rome!



Schedule again.

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stormfeather
Sep. 8th, 2011 12:33 am (UTC)
I didn't realize that Devil's Advocate was actually from this process, no. Although my somewhat eyerollyness was due to the horns and fangs bit... I thought initially he was one of the "sports" that have already been mentioned, and thought that particular mutation along with his job was pushing things a bit far. :p

I'm still not sure if they're supposed to have been metaphorical, as you say, or not.

And glad to know about the non-technical terms!

And re: your other comment below... I think in a way it's even sadder that they apparently *had* the information that the blueprints are as they are just as a side-effect, they just... didn't bother to look. What are they even DOING with this preserved knowledge? Trying to understand it, or just busying themselves with the preservation itself?
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stormfeather
Sep. 8th, 2011 04:24 pm (UTC)
I'm not missing it... I realize the fact that they've lost a ton of knowledge and will have a lot of gaps, regardless. But still, the only one we've actually seen doing anything with the knowledge thus far is Francis, and perhaps Jevis on the practical level. It's just a bit sad that with their whole mission of preserving knowledge, none of them seem to want to, you know, try to do something more with it than just save it.

I mean, like I said, the information about blueprints apparently *was* there in their archives, and not too deeply hidden for Francis to stumble across it, and yet they've all been wasting the time and effort trying to reproduce the colors and so on in the reproductions.
khedron
Sep. 8th, 2011 06:03 pm (UTC)
If it helps (and I'm not sure), I think it took years for Francis to find that out about the blueprints, so it may not have been trivially easy.

(Of course, if I were in his shoes and had anything resembling an encyclopedia, I'd be looking everything up, all the time. ...)
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khedron
Sep. 9th, 2011 03:09 am (UTC)
Rolls of microfiche? (Which doesn't sound like a terrible idea, actually. Apart from the table of contents -- "scroll to foot 97 for Ga-Gl"...)

I do agree with the main point, though. I was thinking earlier about how much *stuff* is in a modern encyclopedia. But then I remembered that I read the Golden Book Encyclopedias for fun as a kid. If I were in Francis's shoes knickers, I'd have looked up "blueprint" a long time ago.
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khedron
Sep. 8th, 2011 03:26 pm (UTC)
I had the impression that the printing press was one of the things that they *did* understand -- the Abbott just didn't think there was enough of a market to justify the ink usage?
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stormfeather
Sep. 8th, 2011 05:21 pm (UTC)
Lulz. I can't figure out of the lack of trees is due to their desert location, or is a byproduct of the nuclear winter. I guess maybe we'll get a hint, when they travel to New Rome. Although if there are that many plants lacking worldwide, one wonders how they manage to do things like, y'know, breathe...
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stormfeather
Sep. 8th, 2011 07:00 pm (UTC)
Well, the desert at least, but I guess what I mean is, we don't have evidence yet that the rest of the world isn't in a similar state, after a nuclear war that required the use of Fallout shelters to survive. (Although again, I figure it's *probably* just the desert area, since they'd have problems with oxygen and such if the plants didn't survive/come back.)
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khedron
Sep. 8th, 2011 06:06 pm (UTC)
Tragic is what the post-apocalypse is all about! Tragedy, adrenaline, and fear of the unknown.
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khedron
Sep. 8th, 2011 06:38 pm (UTC)
Maybe one of the mutant overlords of New Detroit figured out a way to create zombies with neurotoxin...

... no, you're right, that's a different book.
stormfeather
Sep. 8th, 2011 07:02 pm (UTC)
This, I think, is more what I was getting at. I can understand original goals getting misinterpreted over the years, or focusing on the simple goal in a harsh world/society... but that doesn't make it something I'm pleased about.
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