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A promising chapter title, at least!

The persistent daydream about the rest of the world not existing sounds like something I've heard others mention before, although I don't *think* I've had that particular one. It sounds somewhat similar though to Alice's bit of a dream, where she dreams that she's told she's the dream of the White King, and that when he wakes, she'll vanish. I'd say it was the other way around, but Alice (as she was in the stories) was in fact the "dream" or creation of Carroll, so... yeah.

At least it's his legs that Little Icon Scott is missing, rather than his pants!

Anyone else look at the game of peek-a-boo and think "Schreodinger's Mommy"? Anyone? At all? *whistles*

He's still beating a dead horse into the ground whenever he introduces a new concept though. Okay okay, I get the idea of closure already, in like one page. I don't need you continue on for multiple MORE pages about it to get it through my thick skull! Argh! And I guess I'm not allowed to skim. *sigh*

Really, this guys' style, I'll admit, is annoying me. I mean, he's got some interesting ideas, and a nice turn of phrase here and there ("To kill a man between panels is to condemn him to a thousand deaths,") but he just has to hark at the same idea two million times, saying the same thing repeatedly, rather than introducing more new and interesting concepts, or illustrating more ways that a concept is actually used, or what have you. I mean he might *eventually*, but only after hammering the first point on for multiple pages until I just don't really even care about anything more to do with it.

Maybe I'm just impatient.

At least once he gets past explaining the idea of closure, it starts to pick up and become more interesting again though, and we get to see actual different transitions, and how they work in comics, especially contrasting different types of comics, which intrigues me. I think some of these things I've internalized in re: the differences between typical Western fare and manga, and am just seeing spelled out really for the first time here. Like the moment-to-moment transitions, which most Western comics I've seen just don't seem to have much "time" for.

Anyhow, some interesting stuff, but gleaning it is sometimes a matter of picking through too much harping on the same theme, so it's a bit of a roller-coaster. In general though, some of the stuff in this chapter's been pretty interesting, and probably come the closest to bringing me more understanding of comics, so I'll take this as a good sign, I guess?


Remember, Monday: Chapter 4! See ya then.

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khedron
Sep. 11th, 2010 03:59 am (UTC)
blood in the gutter, smoke on the water
Anyone else look at the game of peek-a-boo and think "Schreodinger's Mommy"? Anyone? At all? *whistles*

Heh! Sorry, not I -- I'm a little too close right now to questions of object permanence to do anything other than take that at face value. ;-)

Really, this guys' style, I'll admit, is annoying me.

He certainly is VERY ENTHUSIASTIC. I'm OK with it in this context, but recently my boss wrote website content that was in darn near them same style. At least McCloud doesn't use "!!!" !

I agree he could go more quickly. But I happen to know we all just read "Watchmen" last year -- we're not the novices he was aiming at, perhaps?

I thought the classification of different types of segments was interesting, but even more, I liked his observations about the reader having to put the pieces together when events happen in the gutter. The best Bad Guy is the one who isn't explained in excruciating detail, and there are many other things like that which are better if you form your own picture of them, I think. (That's why people are often disturbed by movie versions of novels -- they're forced to conform to a single vision and it may not be the one they grew up with, right?)

The persistent daydream about the rest of the world not existing sounds like something I've heard others mention before, although I don't *think* I've had that particular one.

I was thinking "Truman Show" when he said that.
stormfeather
Sep. 15th, 2010 06:57 pm (UTC)
Re: blood in the gutter, smoke on the water
I'm thinking Pratchett pretty much has it spot on with his idea of exclamation points, and yeah, bolded text should be in there as well.

And yeah, I realize we're not all novices here, but I think some of the repetition is less a matter of "you're novices" and feels (to me anyhow) more like "you're idiots and I have to hold your hand every step of the way."

khedron
Sep. 16th, 2010 05:00 pm (UTC)
Re: blood in the gutter, smoke on the water
What's Pratchett's taken on exclamation points?

(And would it apply to the interrobang?)
stormfeather
Sep. 16th, 2010 05:09 pm (UTC)
Re: blood in the gutter, smoke on the water
His take on exclamation points is basically that the more that are thrown in, the more unbalanced the person is. :p

And "interrobang" just puts me in mind of "Who's your daddy? Who's your daddy?"
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stormfeather
Sep. 15th, 2010 06:59 pm (UTC)
But do we really really need him to go on at such length, and show so many examples? I mean you seem to think yes, I think no. I guess it's just a matter of opinion? But really, it feels like beating a dead horse to me. To the point where I wanted to just say "get ON with it already" and skim ahead.

Maybe we're just different type of audiences... I get more easily bored with repetition, even if it's for a purpose, whereas you want to ferret out every aspect of something? Maybe? That's my armchair psychology for the day.
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